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im just posting here to blow off some steam, but feel free to give me some suggestions/advice. This whole thing started when i asked my dad if i could trade a modded orbit 1" for a paintball gun.

my dad said no, without a real reason, so we got into a whole heated dissuscion abot things. my parents are both librel anti-gun pieces of crap, and i really hate having to live under the same roof as them. my dad grew up around guns, his whole family had rifles and such, and now he is like fucking john kerry.

he says he cant see things from my perspective, because he loves me too much and dosent want to get sued because i shoot someone. i guess he thinks i am anti-social because i beat some kid up last year for getting on my nerves and got suspended for it, and i defended my little brother when a kid who was 2 years yonnger than me and a year older than him was beating on him.

i almost had him convinced that a spudgun or a .308 is no more dangerous than a baseball bat, they could all be used badly and could all cause a tragic accident, but then he came out wiht some bullshit about society seeing baseball as an american pasttime and seeing a spudgun as a deadly weapon.

i tried to tell him about how many people die because of gun versus car accidents, but he said that people "have" to drive cars and that is a risk that they "have to take" and if with cannons, he is not willing to take the risk for me that i will get injured, because i am not old enough to make that decision for myself. Im FUCKING 15 YEARS OLD. the one positive thing is that he wants to attend a gun saftey course, so that he can try to understand how i think.

You know what eles pisses me off to no end? he sees something that shoots as a weapon, no mater what, i dont think he understands that guns can be used for peaceful purposes. he dosent get that if i wanted to injute or kill someone, i would smash their face in with a baseball bat, not use a gunwhich would be traceable, or a spudgun which would be obvious it was me. i just hate how he is so short sighted. it is not the fact that he said no, it is the reasoning behind it that pisses me off.

if he had said no because it is a waste of money, i could fight my way around it, but this just infuriates me to know end. i dont know how someone like me with my opinions could come from two people like my parents with such different views than me. the thing is i have been like this since age 8, i have liked guns, and knives and fire and i think my parents are scared, because i know more than they do.

My father seems to think that i have an obsession with weapons, first off, there not FUCKING WEAPONS, because i dont use them to hurt other people, and second its not an obsession, its a hobby. he wants my hobby to be making model cars, or studying, or joining the fucking math team like he did, but that isnt what i do. im good at building things with my hands, specificly things that go boom, and my father either just hates me or wants to stint my creative ability. i dont want to join the math club, or the science club, because what my science club does is gay. im not an honors student and i dont think i ever will be. my teachers say i have the capabilities to get straight As, but i dont apply myself, but thats bull shit. im happy with my B average in some calsses and my C in others, but, Being ONLY 15 years old, im not old enough to decide what i want and what i dont, so my standars are set through the fucking roof.

The absoloute Shitteist part, is that he said and i quote" if i thought that your cannons would reach the power level that they have, then i would have never let you venture down that path in the first place, and we are going to stop that right now, before something bad happens."

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is the absoloute last thing that i wanted to happen, not only is my dad a anti-gun liberal piece of shit, but now for some whipped cream on top of that, poof goes my hobby. i have no clue what i should do right now because i feel hopeless. the bottom line___________
I hate my Father

wow. that really sucks . I'm not really sure what to say.

dang man that really does suck maybe after he gets back from the saftey course he might see things a little differently, my mom used to be that way but i convinced her how safe i would be and stuff and now she likes to shoot my spud guns lol.

You could always start a hobby in completely legal crossbows and ballistas.

Here's an idea, start talking about a hobby thats twice as dangerous like rockets, say how you really want to, then they might reconsider their first option.

Your dad cares about you and loves you. You should be so fortunate... to say you hate him, makes me ill. That says a lot about your character as a person.

Although I don't agree with your dad's lack of open mindedness, I can't stand the fact that you would so easily declare hatred for the one person that definately loves you.

Also, I too think anyone who beats up a kid for "getting on his nerves" is fucked up and quite possibly anti-social.

You are just a big fucking pile of hormones, nuff said.

i have made model rockets, but that hobby ended at age 12, when i filled one to the brim with flash powder. i told my dad that i could start using drugs if he thought spudding was too dangerous, but you know wahts funny, he said " go ahead but thats a stupid comparison" WTF?

First off my friend you should never hate someone especially your father.
You my dislike them but not hate them.
But to help you out here is a link to some quotes from different people about firearms. I agree with you, if they can take away are right to bare arms what’s to stop them from taking away the rest of are rights? Anyway here is that link hope it helps:
http://www.pineywoodsplace.com/qguns.html
you are from the US, right?

oooookay then .

TalonXxX wrote:.
Also, I too think anyone who beats up a kid for "getting on his nerves" is fucked up and quite possibly anti-social.

he kid was harrassing me about my weight for a bout a week, i had had enough.

you are probably right, about the hate part, but i said that i was just blowing steam, i am very pissed right now, and i have to let some of it off, you guys are the only people ive got

The firearms safety course will either help him understand potato guns, or just totaly convince him their dangerous. My dad is a little bit skeptical about my new metal potato gun(my first 2 my parents think are awesome), so I just told him about some of the safety measurments I was taking, plus I showed him this site, and SpudTech to show him I was doing my homework on it. If you really wanted to kill someone, you sure as hell wouldn't shoot them with a potato gun. Way to big to "hide", plus what happens if it doesn't kill the guy(this is an odd topic..)?

Beebs, you don't seem like a bad lad and no doubt you operate your spudguns sensibly. It sounds like it's the power of the guns and their "damage potential" that your father has the problem with. I can see your father's point of view but don't understand his attitude.
I know this is a bit late but in retrospect it seems you should have tried to get him interested and involved in them when you started out. That way he would probably appreciate them more and be a bit more trusting in your attitude towards safety when using them.
Oh well, I hope it all works out ok and you eventually get your sprinkler valve(?).

ps I'm sure your father doesn't hate you or want to stint your creative ability

Well I never grew up with a dad, But my mum, grandmother and grandfather are all very suportive with my spud guns. I hope your dad changes his mind, Why not let him fire one to let him see the fun side?

I HATE my father but love my dad, although my dad gets on my nerves a lot I bring most of it on myself but he un-justly blows it out of proportion. At times I feel a great dislike for him but I would never hate him after all hes done for me.
Any male can be a father but only a real man can be a Dad, chew on that for awhile and then re-think your words.

I take offense to the liberal comment. I am a liberal, vote liberal, have liberal views and I dont hate guns. Your dad just dosen't like guns, but take this from me if you will hear it. I hear ya, but at least you have a father that is trying to look out for you. I come from a broken family and I never had a father, although if I did he would build the stuff with me, but that is besides the point, You hate him now but he is just doing what he thinks is right. Getting all up in his face is not the best solution. Back while I was living with my mother she always trusted me. She would kid and say "Dont blow up the house while I'm gone" All way get a kick out of that. You have to show to your father that you know what you are doing, and gain his trust, You might hate me saying this but your father thinks that you are a little young, when you are older you willhave more trust.

Win the trust, win the gun.
PS I am 19 live with my girlfriend and pay bills, rent, am responsible and go to college majoring in CS, I love to build stuff and play airsoft. I am liberal but I get along with fake and "real steel" weapons just fine. Keep working at it, and have patience.

-shadow

Perhaps even show your father this site or atleast some parts so that he can see you aren't just rigging stuff up like an unknown project and that they are safe and pretty much a full blown hobby.