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Hammer Valves?

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:45 pm
by VH_man
Well, i was messing around with a fire extinguishe, and the barel from my airsoft gun and i simply put the barrel in the exit of the fire extinguisher, pumped the extinguisher up to 300 PSI, then put a BB in the barrel, then whacked the top handle with a peice of steel pipe......

you might not think its powerful enough, but i can get off about 50-100 good powered shots (900-1000 FPS) and the noise it makes is about the same volume of a .22 rimfire...... same charetcheristics as well....

I was just wondering if anyone has experimented in a single shot hammer valve gun.

As of now, a push-button Valve from mcmaster sounds like it would work great as the actual valve. as for the hammer, a Chunk of steel that i found in my basement (about 1 lb....) and the main spring from an old spring shotgun, along with some kind of sear mechanism.

I feel like at 300 PSI and a good, efficient hammer valve i can make an extremely powerful pellet cannon that reloads by simply moving a lever back and forth.

anyway, my question is, has anyone ever tried a hammer valve?

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:51 pm
by JDP12
wow thats a good idea, and no i have not tried a hammer valve, bu by all means go for it and let us know how it turns out!

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:41 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
pumped the extinguisher up to 300 PSI
:shock:

With what?
as for the hammer, a Chunk of steel that i found in my basement (about 1 lb....) and the main spring from an old spring shotgun
Sounds a little overkill, I don't think the push-button valve will last long taking that sort of abuse, not to mention the massive stresses on the rest of your launcher to contail the power.

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:48 pm
by Wombat
Maybe one of those long and skinny PCP airgun pumps.

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:53 pm
by Zen///
"Maybe one of those long and skinny PCP airgun pumps."

I saw at sum air gun site (I found the link here) those pumps for 189$ + :shock:

But they go up to 3000psi+ :twisted:

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 2:57 pm
by VH_man
i used my bike pump and two people to get up to 300 PSI......

Ill just use a hunk of Epoxy..... And no i did not say that to make you happy.. lol.

i jsut feel like i can machine epoxy. ive gone through 3 dremels trying to cut notches and things in metals.

I know that my goal is not for the valve to open 100% but to just get whacked open long enough to let a high-pressure spurt of air come out. then, the valve will close and pressures will equalize. to refire, recock the bolt.....

I want this to run off of regulated CO2. basically im making a homemade PCP...... well, kind of. its gonna shoot airsoft bb's.

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:33 pm
by experament-u2
i think it sounds good
and you've given me inspiration to find that old extinguisher i had lying around here and do some tests

go for it chap

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:28 pm
by shud_b_rite
That was how I made my first pneumatic. What sort of fire extinguisher was it? Most dry powder ones are rated to 200psi.

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:16 pm
by VH_man
its a dry poweder one.... it takes 300 PSI though.....

haha and ive inspired you...... wow.

i might have to post some vids. this thing can puch holes through both sides of a soup can with a steel BB......... well, both sides of about 4 cans.......

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 1:19 am
by shud_b_rite
Photo's or video's would be good. Im interested to see your trigger setup i.e steel pipe, to see how you get so many shots out of it. I used a 1kg tank at 120psi and just my fingers to trigger it and i could only get 1.5 shots (yes that is one point five). But yea that is impressive.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:30 am
by VH_man
Shud_b-Rite, my trigger setup was simply "hit top handle of fire extinguisher with pipe really hard"

it finally came down to a 8 inch peice of 1 inch PVC pipe duct taped to the top, in which i drop a roll of pennies. works like a charm.

i will have videos up eventually, i actually have school/sports, starting today, so it might be a while.