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new gun? could this work?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:27 pm
by pnematicrookie
ive new used a qev OR a piston valve before! but im making a barrel sealing valve and i got 2 qev's on the way, and ive been trying to figure out how to incorparate both in one gun...could this work?...oh yeah and could i use a screw-in valve for air input?

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:33 pm
by MrCrowley
Why?

I don't think you grasp the concept of piston valves very well.

All you are doing with having the QEV there is limiting flow, having more dead space, and wasting $25.

Why would you have a QEV infront of a piston valve?

Oh and when you trigger the piston valve you will be sending alot of air pressure, fast, into the input of a QEV, which wont do it any good, and then all the air will eventually go out the pilot valve from the piston valve and the QEV wont actuate and all your air is gone and nothing has happened. :?

Explain please.

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:34 pm
by pnematicrookie
sorry :cry: im just trying to learn.....

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:35 pm
by Hailfire753
No. I don't think it would. In a QEV the pilot pressure has to decrease to be less than the chamber pressure, and in this design they would decrease at the same rate. Just don't attach the chamber to the pilot.

There is a great picture and description of how a QEV works in the Wiki link at the top of the page. However, the wiki is currently down, so wit a bit, then search "QEV" there.

Edit: MrCrowly, there is no piston valve in his design. There is a QEV, and a barrel.

Also, search for QEV cannons in the search link below the "cannons" button, or just browse pneumatics.

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:37 pm
by DYI
It seems to me like you're just trying to incorporate excess parts :wink:

Using the QEV to pilot a larger piston valve is the only way that you're going to use both in one simple design.

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:41 pm
by pnematicrookie
thanx, good thing i asked about it first lol

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:42 pm
by MrCrowley
Hailfire753 wrote:No. I don't think it would. In a QEV the pilot pressure has to decrease to be less than the chamber pressure, and in this design they would decrease at the same rate. Just don't attach the chamber to the pilot.

There is a great picture and description of how a QEV works in the Wiki link at the top of the page. However, the wiki is currently down, so wit a bit, then search "QEV" there.

Edit: MrCrowly, there is no piston valve in his design. There is a QEV, and a barrel.

Also, search for QEV cannons in the search link below the "cannons" button, or just browse pneumatics.
Ah yes there is, notice the words saying "2" barrel sealing tee".

And he said he was incorperating a piston valve and QEV into his design.

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:45 pm
by Hailfire753
Lol,Whoops, sorry MC. It's late over here and i'm half awake. I unviewed the pic, and did not see remember that.

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:48 pm
by MrCrowley
Hailfire753 wrote:Lol,Whoops, sorry MC. It's late over here and i'm half awake. I unviewed the pic, and did not see remember that.
I had a feeling... :)

Edit: MC, haha Master of Ceremonies. :D

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:19 pm
by pnematicrookie
well, i went back to the drawing bored and i think ive made some good corrections :wink: just wait a few weeks

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:31 am
by psycix
pnematicrookie wrote:well, i went back to the drawing bored and i think ive made some good corrections :wink: just wait a few weeks
Do you think its boring to design guns? :?
:D

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:38 pm
by pnematicrookie
lol, i meant BOARD

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:15 pm
by peeeto
keep it up! - we can see you're really trying to learn.

p.s. lol i just have to ask (j/k here) - did you name the JPG "newdesign_137"? and if so, that wasn't your 137th sketch, was it?! ;) it occurred to me that if so, that's dedication!

[edit, added:]
p.p.s. where have you used qev's before? paintball?

p.p.p.s. i don't think it's an problem 'cause you're obviously new to alot of this, but i think this discussion area, "Pneumatic Cannon Showcase", is for generally for constructed projects... questions are better off posted in the "Pnaumatic Cannon Discussion" area... not tryin' to tell you what to do, 'cause i'm new here too, just trying to help.

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:44 am
by pnematicrookie
to peeeto, lol, no thats not my 137th sketch, i really dont know how that came to be...but yeah i pretty much kno not to post these type of posts here...ive been gettin' harassed a lot about it, and thanx for the positive message...idk why people think u just suppose to know this stuff naturally

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:25 am
by MaxuS the 2nd
but yeah i pretty much kno not to post these type of posts here...ive been gettin' harassed a lot about it, and thanx for the positive message
Only because you have been too lazy to properly research before you post.
If you were to research first, then we'd be happy to help.