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please help real quick.

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:01 am
by jdp204
i just bought a new valve like in the tutorial and didnt mod it yet, when i screwed it into my gun and started to add compressed air the valve jsut let the air straight out of the barrell. the gun holds no pressure. i tried it with the selenoid still screwed in, and with the switchi in both positions. the first time i filled my gun it seemed to hold a little air, so when it had a couple psi in it i put the switch in the other position to let the air out. when i ttried to pressurize it again the air went straight out. this valve is brand new and i havent done anything to it. whats wrong with it? its a watermaster 1" valve, anyone else have this problem?

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:13 pm
by jdp204
could anyone suggest a valve that they know to work? please, the simpilier the better. thanks

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:12 pm
by PCGUY
The watermaster 1" works perfectelly...
What are you using to fill it? If your using something with not enough flow... the valve won't close.

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:25 pm
by jdp204
im using a normal car tire pump that runs off of a cigarette lighter. its really frustrating me, i cant find out why it wont work. on my other guns(with a ball valve) the pump im using will get the tank to 70 psi but not past, should i be using a different pump? like an air compressor? i dont have one of those. i really need this thing to work but jsut cant figure it out. my valves just dont close and i think i need a new air pump. ill take some pictures and post them so you guys can tell me if you se anything wrong.

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 8:30 pm
by PCGUY
My money is on the fact that it's not filling it fast enough... since there is an equalization hole in the diaphram, if you fill it too slow all of the air just leaks out and it will not seal.

Do you know someone with a compressor that you could test out?

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:27 pm
by jdp204
i do know someone with a compresser. is thier anything i can doto not have to use a compressor? like what if i add another schrader valve to the chamber and use two tire fillers?

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 11:54 pm
by jdp204
if i make my chamber smaller, its really quite large, wil that help with the pressure problems that my tire pump wont provide? alternatively, could i add a ball valve between the chamber and the vavle to gain pressure, then release the ball valve so the the pressure is enough to close the sprinkler valve, then open the blowgun to let the air through the chamber? its a combersome idea but do you think it will work?

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 2:57 pm
by PCGUY
alternatively, could i add a ball valve between the chamber and the vavle to gain pressure, then release the ball valve so the the pressure is enough to close the sprinkler valve, then open the blowgun to let the air through the chamber? its a combersome idea but do you think it will work?
That may work... first try the compressor and if it fills, then you know the problem and the ball valve idea should work.

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:53 pm
by jdp204
the compressor failed, you think thew ball vavle may work? ill try it tomrrow afterschool and if that doesnt work im taking pictutes of my gun and you guys can hopefully diagnose the problem. thanks for all of the help.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:20 pm
by jdp204
the ball valve idea failed. i have no idea why this doesnt work, i put a ball valve before the sprinkler valve and when the ball valve was released at 30 psi the air leaks out as before, this is with an unmodded sprinkler valve. ill post picks here soon for you guys to help me :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:26 pm
by PCGUY
Yeah post pics... when mine was new out of the box it held air..

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:47 pm
by Mr_SBC
im having the same problem, but i have a 3/4" watermaster. Im even using a aircompressor with a quick disconnect so the air is going in plently fast.

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:31 pm
by DAltar
it could be put on backward try turning it around

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:22 pm
by Mr_SBC
i got mine to work, i used a super thick hi-temp bearing packing grease. and it works perfect now

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:13 am
by pyrogeek
Could you make sure the little equilazation hole is allowing air through well enough?