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air pressure versus muzzle speed linear or NON linear?

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:15 am
by rgormley
Any body know if the increase in pressure versus muzzle speed is NON linear??


One if the engineers who play around with hydraulics said that there is a very non linear curve of air compression pressure versus muzzle speed

Presume to do with how air compresses

Any ideas?

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 5:36 am
by rna_duelers
Wait for BLB,he's pritty much the smartest on here.He should be able to answer that.

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 6:05 pm
by boilingleadbath
Assuming a weightless gas (lol), the corresponding compleate lack of flow restriction (good luck keeping it in your chamber), and an infinite chamber volume... you'll find that muzzle velocity goes as the square root of the pressure (in PSIG).

Muzzle energy, in this hypothetical situation, WOULD go liniarly with pressure.
This is a good aproximation for shooting heavy projectiles - any valve worthy of the title won't restrict flow noticably and gas dynamics arn't terribly important at low speeds.

However, adding weight to the gas makes it harder to reach high speeds. This flattens the curve somewhat, especialy at high pressures.
Limmiting chamber volume probably makes the curve even more curved, though - especialy at low pressures.

But... anyways, it's not liniar. Go plug some numbers into the GGDT if you want to know a closer approximation for your specific launcher.

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:52 pm
by drac
Kinda funny, this topic comes up after a little post about my PreCalc project. ;)

That is what i was wondering, because if it isn't linear then it shoots my whole project to hell.

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:20 pm
by joannaardway
The relationship is definately not linear between pressure and MV. (It does relate to the square root of pressure, given a fixed launcher, and a decent valve)

However, the relationship between GGDT results and actual results should be a linear-ish realtionship.

Or so I would believe.