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.22 deformed barrel
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:53 pm
by joe blogs
If i weld a bolt onto my.22 gun barrel which i am using for my next pneumatic will it deform the barrel?
if i weld a bolt onto my ball valve will it create much leakage?
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:56 pm
by Pete Zaria
I don't understand your question. Can you please elaborate on or rephrase it?
Peace,
Pete Zaria.
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:46 pm
by n00b
What is the material for and dimensions of the barrel? (I am assuming you mean metal, but plastic can also be welded)
Also, it seems that brazing would be a more appropriate method of attaching anything to a ball valve, as they usually have a brass housing. Actually, it may be better to avoid attaching anything to a ball valve using heat, for fear of warping the components. (the steel ball inside will expand at a different rate than the brass housing, possibly causing something like engine heat seize)
-n00b
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:51 pm
by From_Hamsterdam
brazing would be the strongest option but you could also use a epoxy resin if it is easier.
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:14 pm
by AmYisroelChai
Joe I think you confused e/o. What exactly do you want to do?
Pete Z has much experience in barrels and can be of great help as can others. But try to be clearer so they can directly answer your questions.

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:41 pm
by joe blogs
I have a mig welder and i was wondering if i welded on a bolt onto the ball valve so that i could attach it to the stock,would it screw up the plastic inside and consequently leak.
I also want to weld a bolt onto a .22 gun barrel for the exact same reason will the heat from the welder distort the rifling in the barrel
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:14 am
by cdheller
"I have a mig welder and i was wondering if i welded on a bolt onto the ball valve so that i could attach it to the stock,would it screw up the plastic inside and consequently leak."
the plastic seals in ball valves fail at much more than soldering tempatures but you can take ball valves apart. and remove the seals ,there will be a seal under the handle stem nut also.
the sealant/locktite used on ball valves requires heat to disassemble .
without heat you will mangle them.
?I'm guessing you either have a steel or iron bodied valve if your planing to weld on it?
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:38 am
by joe blogs
how do you take a ballvalve apart?
Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:19 pm
by chaos
i have a feeling this wont turn out so good....
Pull it apart,
ball valves vary in models some you can only pull the tap off, and other like the ones i have can be completely disassembled by undoing four main bolts.
the seals in ball valves should withstand the heat.
why are you welding to a cast iron piece? there's a reason it was cast and machined in the first place...
the sealant/locktite used on ball valves requires heat to disassemble .
without heat you will mangle them
true but not, with some ball valves, as i said they vary on type.
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:54 am
by cdheller
for a 2piece ball valve.
you'll need a torch and at least 2 pipe wrenches.
a bench or pipe vice and 1 pipe wrench makes it easier.
clamp it in your vice with the removable seat pointing up .
the stem/handle needs to be placed in the vice to keep the valve from spinning in the vice instead of clamping real hard on the valve.
heat the valve body area where the seat is blowing your flame up , not down toward the valve.
when it gets hot enough the seat breaks loose fairly easy.
after throwing it into a can of water turn your valve to off . the slot ontop of the ball should be lined up where the ball can be shaken out
take the handle nut , handle ,and packing nut off the stem and push the stem into the body and out of the valve.
there will be some kind of a seal for the stem and the 2nd ball seal left .
you should end up something that resembles this pic below
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/productIndex.shtml
a couple of these split ring clamps might be a easer way to hook every thing together
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:11 am
by chaos
cdheller, man i see your pic and cant help picture your face... only some require you to do that, some are as simple as 4 bolts and its apart, no heat, no mess, no need for a vice.
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:40 am
by cdheller
chaos
"i have a feeling this wont turn out so good.... "
"cdheller, man i see your pic and cant help picture your face... only some require you to do that, some are as simple as 4 bolts and its apart, no heat, no mess, no need for a vice. "
I'm with you on both
except I'ld just strap or clamp the rig down and be done with it.
the pic on my profile is Bubbles from the Canadian tv show Trailer Park Boys
he's a trip
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:22 am
by Bubba05
@joe blogs the sort of heat genarated by a tig welder is going to servearly F@%K your .22 barrel. .22's dont even survive house fires dude so you gunna kill it!
Bubba
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:24 am
by LucyInTheSky
You should trt and just solder it on as the temperatures are much lower.
Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 10:29 am
by chaos
screw that, iono why u chose for a rifle/ball-valve combo you could have just cut the barrel off clean and flat and then make a piston/ much easier aye.