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Tapping a gauge...
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 6:15 am
by flamerz14
What exactly is 'tapping' a gauge to a chamber or a blogun like in the
AMC? and how d you do it?
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 7:21 am
by ArticWolf
Well first off you need to drill a hole slightly smaller than the gauge and or blowgun and and get a tap the size of the treads on the gauge and or blow gun. Tap the hole that you made so that the gauge and or blowgun will tread in to the hole. Always use tethlon on the treads of the gauge and or blowgun this will make it easier to just twist the gauge and or blowgun in just don't tighten them down to much, remember you don't want to strip your newly threaded hole. Good luck hope this help you
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:46 am
by sgort87
The term "tap" means to make female threads.
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 11:52 am
by jimmy101
You can usually "tap" the threads for the gauge without actually having a tap. Taps (the tool that cuts threads in a predrilled hole) are kind of expensive.
PCV (and ABS) is pretty soft stuff. Take a hunk of scrap and drill various size holes in it that are a bit smaller than what the gauge (or blowgun) needs. Carefully try to thread the gauge (or blowgun) into the hole. It is important that you start out nice and square to the hole. If you can't get the threads to catch in the hole then the hole is too small. If the threads catch in the hole very easily then your hole is probably too big.
Once you can get it to work on a piece of scrap then you can drill the same size hole in your gun and do it for real. If you are working with something that is fragile, many pressure gauges are pretty fragile, then see if you can find a pipe with the same threads. Use that piece of pipe as your tap to create the threads. Once you have the threads then your expensive / fragile device can be threaded into the hole without putting too much torque on it.
To test your "ghetto" tap job grab the gauge (or blowgun) and pull hard. Can you pull the gauge (or blowgun) out of the hole? You should not be able to. It is a good mental exercise to calculate how much force the gauge (or blowgun) threads will need to withstand. The force the threads have to withstand is just the area of the whole (in square inches) times the maximum pressure the chamber will be used at. For a combustion gun figure 80 PSIG maximum pressure in the chamber. For a compressed air gun figure 150 PSIG max. (If you have access to a kick-ass compressor then multiply the compressors peak pressure by say 1.5 and use that as the max pressure.) For example, a 1/2" diameter hole in a compressed air gun charged from a 120 PSIG max pressure compressor needs to withstand pi*(1/2/2)<sup>2</sup>*120 = 24 pounds of force.
Like ArticWolf said, don't over tighten your gauge (or blowgun). PVC is soft and you'll rip your nice new threads right out of the hole.
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 3:30 am
by flamerz14
so that means I have to drill normally but with a hole slightly smaller than the gauge right?
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:04 am
by jimmy101
Yep. Try it on a piece of scrap first. Kind of difficult to fill a too big hole.
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 5:52 am
by flamerz14
ok..
wat mm drill bit should I use for a schrader valve?
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:03 am
by ArticWolf
6.3500 mm I hope that is right if that don't work this will help. You can try this if you can get them it is a bolt in valve stem like in the pic. This could be mounted any were the bottom of it is wide so should work any were
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:24 am
by flamerz14
where can i get those?
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:28 am
by ArticWolf
Any auto part store, they should have them. Auto Zone and the like carry the but you might have to ask about them if you can't find them they should be around they reguler valve stem's But they are called A bolt in tire valve lol
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:30 am
by flamerz14
A bolt? haha I'll try to find 1.. Where I live(Singapore) there's no Auto Zone.Thanks loads though...
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:43 am
by ArticWolf
You drill a hole and they bolt in pic's might help
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 7:03 am
by Mr.Russ
sgort87 wrote:The term "tap" means to make female threads.
Is that where they got
I'd 'tap' that
from?
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 5:39 pm
by frankrede
ArticWolf wrote:6.3500 mm I hope that is right if that don't work this will help. You can try this if you can get them it is a bolt in valve stem like in the pic. This could be mounted any were the bottom of it is wide so should work any were
DWV!
Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:07 pm
by ArticWolf
What the end cap? The printing on the cap says NSF-PW I think but that was in till I put the valve stem in it was printed on top of the cap. could be DWV though