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				BB's in air chamber behind burst disk, will it puncture?
				Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 11:53 pm
				by Davidvaini
				hey guys, have any of you tried to put any objects in a chamber held in by a burst disk?
I have made burst disk launchers and put objects past the disk but not before it.
I am thinking about putting a bunch of bb's in the air chamber behind a aluminum foil burst disk launcher and im wondering if the bb's with the pressure will prematurely puncture the burst disk.
I am working on a pre-loaded cartridge and it would make my design 1000 times easier if it doesnt.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:08 am
				by OuchProgramme
				Uhh how would it burst? 
The only way for the BB's to even move was to input air, which is breaking the burst disk...
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:17 am
				by Davidvaini
				Well for example:
Say i run the burst disk normally and it normally bursts at 70psi. Now If I put in bb's will it burst at a lower psi such as 40? Just wondering if it lowers the ammount of psi needed to break the burst disk.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:18 am
				by Hubb
				If all is in place and then you pressurize it, the BBs will stagnate and not move much (if at all).  I don't think you would have to worry about them breaking the disk.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:24 am
				by TwitchTheAussie
				Im gonna take a stab in the dark. M203 grenade?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:31 am
				by DrowningTrout
				http://www.neospud.com/mark3/mark3.html
Similar to that??? 
I've personally seen that at airsoft, it is amazing. I've met neospud!
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:32 am
				by Hubb
				I guess I misunderstood you the first time.  From your example, you are only taking away from the volume of the chamber.  I still do not think, however, the bbs will make the disk rupture at a lower pressure.
There's only one surefire way to find out, though...
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:37 am
				by Davidvaini
				
um no... not even close to the same concept....
mark3 is cool and all but I prefer the rc-p240 (P90 BBMG mod).
Anyways back on topic:
I wasnt sure if they would be stagnant or if they would "cloud" up and burst the disk.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:59 am
				by jackssmirkingrevenge
				Something like 
this you mean?
Unless your cartridge has a BB diameter tube before the disk, where the BB is a perfect 100% seal, you should be safe.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:23 pm
				by Davidvaini
				jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:Something like 
this you mean?
Unless your cartridge has a BB diameter tube before the disk, where the BB is a perfect 100% seal, you should be safe.
 
yeah something like that but would hold a lot of bb's.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:54 pm
				by Davidvaini
				well today I got my first working prototype cartridge system and it worked flawlessly. Sounded like a 12 gauge went off when I dry fired it. When loaded with wading and bb's it sounded exactly like a real grenade launcher. that familiar bloop or thump noise.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:20 am
				by jackssmirkingrevenge
				Interesting, what are you using to burst the disk?  photos/diagrams/videos would be nice 
edit: nevermind, hadn't seen the thread