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Push button Fuel Metering

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:40 pm
by SnowFlox
I have this idea for a fuel metering system..

does someone already made something like this ? or is it a new idea ?

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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:12 pm
by sandman
new to me
but it seems like it would be hard to control the speed of flow to get the right amount of fuel

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:40 pm
by sjog
look up sgort87' s winning gun he used a valve like the one you wasted your time "drawing"
Hey ,your not the only person who does it lots 'o peeps "draw" stuff that has been built or can be bought off the shelf.
How many PSI can your "drawing" hold?
I get it ,you want to build the biggest, fastest gun that shoots 2000 yds and only can spend the money found under the couch cushions! lol
Spend your lunch money and buy the part.
AND look up what you want dont just start a new post
Your idea is good I'm just in a bad mood
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:45 pm
by frankrede
Sgort has a Push button fill setup using a 3 way solenoid.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 3:49 pm
by SnowFlox
sjog wrote:look up sgort87' s winning gun he used a valve like the one you wasted your time "drawing"
Hey ,your not the only person who does it lots 'o peeps "draw" stuff that has been built or can be bought off the shelf.
How many PSI can your "drawing" hold?
I get it ,you want to build the biggest, fastest gun that shoots 2000 yds and only can spend the money found under the couch cushions! lol
Spend your lunch money and buy the part.
AND look up what you want dont just start a new post
Your idea is good I'm just in a bad mood
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
whats your problem ?? damn ..... :?

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:14 pm
by VH_man
yeah... that was a little uncalled for.

it looks like that would work quite well. in fact, VERY well. i like the way you think. the only problem i see is the fact that your meter volume would have to be increased, because in order to be able to resist the 100PSI+ that propane gives off to "push" (in your case more like whack with a hammer) the valve open.

still, try it. just might have to hit it pretty hard to make it work.

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:49 pm
by turbohacker
Try a Pnumatic ram (get them for $5 here http://surpluscenter.com/sort.asp?UID=2 ... yword=ACSA )

Maybe that will give the nessasary push :D

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:58 pm
by VH_man
holy patuters its only 5 bucks for a 1 inch stroke, .25 inch air ram!!!!!!!! WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

sorry. that makes me happy. im gonna use these things to my advantage. semi-auto marble sniper anyone? hehehehe.

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:42 am
by SnowFlox
hmmm... diddnt thought about the pressure...

but sgort's system looks wicked !

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:02 pm
by boilingleadbath
As others have said, the main issue with this setup is that the pressure will make this hard to move.

However, I aided in the design and manufacture of one of these devices a while back. My solution to the problem was to add another disk to the piston, so that the propane would not get behind it and present an unbalanced force.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 9:37 am
by iknowmy3tables
this is alittle dead but I just wanted to say that gort did not use a 3way solidnoid, its a minature control valve with fingertab activation just so people can research the right term because its hard to reaserch pictures

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:08 pm
by frankrede
ohh, I guess I was wrong.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:50 pm
by Gepard
iknowmy3tables wrote:<snip> minature control valve with fingertab activation <snip>
It's a variable rate blow gun IIRC.....

Michael

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:05 pm
by Major Woody
iknowmy3tables wrote:this is alittle dead but I just wanted to say that gort did not use a 3way solidnoid, its a minature control valve with fingertab activation just so people can research the right term because its hard to reaserch pictures
This is true about it being a valve not a solenoid.
But it is a three way valve and requires only a quick tap to charge the chamber. My gun is a close copy of Sgort's, with a few changes (Mr. Heater reg, sweated copper meter pipe instead of brass, rifled barrel and a flash supressor on the barrel). That little valve works wonderfully and the whole fuel meter weighs a tiny fraction of what your typical meter assembly weighs.

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:59 am
by kenbo0422
Forget about the pressure. If you use a tube in place of the dual pistons, you'll get pressure pushing equally in both directions. Just cut two holes in the side of the tube, block the tube so the fuel only occupies the volume that you want, and extend the tube toward the left, as shown in your drawing. The extension will keep a solid wall of tubing to block the fuel inlet side until you move it to the fill position. The pressure pushes on the sides of the tube, so moving the mechanism isn't affected by the pressure working against you.