Seriously, take a chill pill. I have been in lots of japanese cars, and they all seemed to have more road noise than the truck. With the exception of the toyota tundra. I have had, your right, relatively bad experiences with japanese cars. But about the crash part, I was talking about SUV to small car collision. Of course its more likely to roll over. Especially if you drive like a maniac.Another ignorant statement. Handling happens whenever you deviate from a straight line. If you live in south dakota, and only drive on the highway, your argument would hold some water, but even then the cons of a truck quickly stack up against it (poor safety, mpg, braking, ride, emergency manuvers, etc)
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My dad's truck accelerates faster than many cars I have been in, so what. It rides nicer than most japanese cars i've been in, is quieter inside, and doesn't feel like I have a blanket insulating me from the road noise. (Ram 1500 with hemi)
This just means you haven't been in many cars. At all. If you find a truck 'quiet' I'm guessing you've never even been in a car. Your statements go from ignorant to wrong, and quickly jump up to pure insanity.
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Oh yeah, and the engine doesn't sound like some bees buzzing around in a bottle. Japanese cars may last longer, but they sure seem cheap when you get inside.
... I'm really trying hard not to call you a freakin idiot, considering Toyota, Lexus, Acura, and Subaru have higher fit and finish ratings than almost any domestic brand except caddillac. My Subaru has leather seats, a suede/padded vinyl dash, and door panels with matching suede and padded vinyl. Everything is soft, and luxurious. It was designed by Guigiaro of italdesign, in Italy. You really don't know what the hell you're talking about, and you're making broad generalizations that simply aren't true. You obviously don't read up on cars at all, and you're not a vehicular obsessive person like me, and I'm sorry to say, but I know a LOT more than you about this subject, and what you're saying is just plain made up bullshit.
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I admit it, I am a sucker for trucks,
No way.
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but if you get in a crash with a car in one, guess who's going to live?
Actually you're COMPLETELY and TOTALLY wrong. Deathrates are much MUCH higher in pickups/suvs than they are for cars.
The majority of SUV drivers claim that they’re safer in an SUV, but unfortunately, they’re completely and totally wrong. They are not safer. In fact, it’s generally the opposite. How could that possibly be? The same features that make SUVs good at driving off the road are exactly what make them so dangerous on the road. First, the SUV frame itself is usually very stiff, and heavily reinforced. It’s designed like this not only to support the increased weight of the large vehicle, but also to withstand the abuse of shocks, jolts, and stresses caused by driving off-road. This heavy-duty frame also lacks crumple zones, or areas designed to deform and compress in an accident, dispersing vast amounts of energy, and slowing down the occupants a bit more gradually. Instead, this stiff frame doesn’t crumple, and the shocks and jolts of even a minor accident are transferred directly into the passenger compartment. A car doesn’t do this. The average car is designed to sacrifice itself to save its occupants, by crumpling as much as possible, excluding the passenger compartment. SUVs are not designed like this; they’re designed to withstand impacts without crumpling. This makes them more hazardous than cars.
According to the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, passenger car deaths have risen 2% since 1975, whereas SUV deaths have skyrocketed over 1000%. But wait, surely this can be explained by the increased number of SUVs on the road since 1975, right? Wrong.
"“In 1998, there were 130 million passenger cars registered in the USA, and 16 million SUVs. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, there were 119,000 car rollovers and 36,000 SUV rollovers that year. That means that for every 100,000 vehicles, 91 cars rolled over -- and 225 SUVs, a figure almost three times as high. When it
comes to deaths, the disparity is even greater; for every 100,000 vehicles there are 3.4 deaths in car rollovers, but 10.1 in SUV rollovers (a figure over three times as high). As to the rarity of rollover accidents, once again we must look at NHTSA figures. For the 130 million cars,
there were 29,000 fatal accidents in 1998 -- a death rate of 22 per 100,000 vehicles. For the 16 million SUVs, there were 4,500 fatalities, which means a death rate of 28 per 100,000”
(Murray). "
If you want I could keep going, but it's pretty clear you're outgunned in this area, badly.
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Plus, subaru's tow nowhere near the same amount your average truck can.
Newsflash: Most people don't tow what their truck is advertised to tow. People using 'towing capacity' like a dick contest. Great. It can tow 100,000 lbs. Awesome. But who the fork ever does that? Like .05% of the population. It's sad to say, but most trucks/suvs I see don't even have trailer hitches.
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EDIT: Oh yeah, my dad's truck handles pretty well also, very carlike handling.
Bullshit. You're saying a dodge ram with a hemi handles well? It has a live axles, and leaf springs. You seriously know absolute DICK about cars. What is the slalom speed for a ram? 55.9mph.
http://www.trucktrend.com/oftheyear/tru ... k_of_the_y ear_testing/2006_dodge_ram_1500.html
What is the slalom speed for a honda accord? Over 64mph. Hell, dodge neon slalom? 69mph.
You are completley ignorant. I'm sorry to rant, but I can't stand stupid people attempting to sound like they're right.
If any of you are HONESTLY up for debating with me, please read my research paper on the safety of SUVs located here:
http://chicane.myftp.org/SUVresearchpaper.pdf
I'm not as ignorant as you say I am. I regularly read articles about cars, and I am aware of many stats, as well as reviews. I was simply saying that newer trucks handle much better than the stereotype you have placed on them. Those cars, too, were in nowhere near the same category in handling. Civics and such are marked for their good handling characteristics. Old chev trucks and such handle like crap. I totally agree.
Ok, and I'm not a hick or anything. I get all A's and B's, and plan on going to college and making lots of money. Just like you don't appreciate trucks, I don't appreciate subaru's. No offense, but I think that car in the pic was ugly.
And wtf about never being in a car? I have been in too many to count, and unless they were a mercedes or lexus, they were not as quiet. My dad's truck has a full (real) leather interior, and heated seats, and all those nice amenities. It is QUIET. I know quiet when I experience it. Now, screaming exhaust, now there's something else to that. I appreciate it.
I am not in for a penile replacement contest either. That is rediculous. Now granted, there are a few people out there who lack self-confidence, and I'm not one of them. I just like having a nice, shiny truck with big rims.
And wtf are you talking about when you say most trucks don't have trailer hitches!?!? Wait, do you mean hitch ports or hitches? In the cas of ports every single one I see has one. It is STANDARD. And I live in liberal central Seattle. Our boat weighs 5,000lbs on trailer. So, I don't think that the subaru can tow that.
The Ram's hood would crumple if you hit it with your fist. It flexes even when you lift it.
And when you said above that you didn't want to piss us off, then what WERE you trying to do? You really pissed me off.
You say I make broad generalizations, when you have made plenty.
And don't get me wrong, I appreciate Japanese cars when they are tuned and pimped out, but stock, eh, they just don't do anything for me.
Why is it that that you are so concerned with "outgunning" me? Have I hurt your penile ego? It goes both ways, so please, stop it.
EDIT: Eh, about the Rav4. I was in one that was about from 2000, and it was really cramped. I mean REALLY. In the back seat, two people can touch shoulders. And in the case of my carpooling situation, you are crammed together, and can't even breath properly. Literally. As far as driving it goes, I have no idea. And the rear seats are extremely uncomfortable, they have these weird plastic bolsters for your lower back on the sides, that jab into your back. And, in the center, half the backrest is hard plastic that also jabs into your back. And, your knees are in the front seat, preventing you from being able to move. Clearly, it wasn't well though out. I don't know about the front, because my friend always got it because it was his mom's car.
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I am not completely against them, I just don't like most of them.
My friend drives a brand-new Tacoma with off-road package and had a cumulative GPA of 3.7 and an ACT of 25. 
It sounds absolutely evil. 