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I don't think he was talking about using the Fe2O3 (presumably) as a catalyst, just as a better high temperature oxidizer.

Having actually made both, I do prefer the black powder. (Which is more dangerous to work with, though neither fuel is unstable)

I have cast kilos upon kilos of kno3/sucrose mix, and have never had any significant amount (Nothing more than a few grams dripping onto the burner), ignite during the process.

I have had a couple hand packed black powder rocket CATOs, but I have a perfect record since I started using a proper press. *Knock on wood*

Shotting anything on fire outta' a spudgun is a felony. Don't do it, even if the nice officers from Vegas suggest it.
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quit hijacking this take it to pms
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u know what f*ck u sb15 all u do is flame poeple ur an effing idiot

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i didn't spell anything wrong idiot...so what if i use u and ur....everyone knows what it means......god i bet ur like 8 years old and u ask ur dad for comebacks then u dont know how to spell it so he comes and flames people for u.....
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you spelled your wrong.....so umm there....plus see that red button that looks like an exclamation point?? i pressed it.....



You and you immaturity are
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Spudthug he's not flaming, just stating the truth. As for hijacking the fourms, this is a discussion of rockets as I recall is it not?

hmm, I was always under the impression that black powder was tuff to pack into a good mould, guess I was wrong.

I still prefer KnO3/ sucrose myself, mainly because its so cheap to make.

Has anyone had any luck with ammonium nitrate? The different recipes I tried all resulted in pretty crappy propellant, from what Ive learned you apparently need to phase stabilize it, Im still unsure of what that means.


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Please refer to the last people who got into a pissing contest, and reconsider your thoughts about this argument.
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:19 pm

SpudBlaster15, a quote come to mind.
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.
'Spudthug' appears to be a complete moron, so just leave him be.

And indeed, the KNO3/Sucrose mix seems to fall about 200*C short of the decomposition temp of Fe2O3.

I have yet to have a KNO3/Sucrose CATO, although I have blown out a couple nozzles. (When experimenting with new types)
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:31 pm

So I've been interested in this kinf of thing for a while. Well, anything that goes boom or spews flame really... Moving on, where do you got your supplies. I know the ingredients for both black powder and KNO3/sucrose but the only thing I know how to get is the sucrose. I know KNO3 can be obtained from farm supply stores but I think a 19-year-old buying a 20 lb bag of KNO3 for no apparent reason would raise questions.
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Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:35 pm

Actually, a lot of 'farm stores' don;t sell KNO3 anymore, for fear of terrorism. (Especially in Oklahoma)
KNO3 is sold at BCARMS.com :lol:
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