I fooled around with this cartridge design decades ago but gave up because it was long before 4500 psi handpumps were available. This sparked interest in it again, maybe with a 40mm size cartridge
the air cartridge we wanted
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Joerg's new toy.  
I fooled around with this cartridge design decades ago but gave up because it was long before 4500 psi handpumps were available. This sparked interest in it again, maybe with a 40mm size cartridge
  ... maybe rimless for better feeding in JSR's brain.
            
			
									
						I fooled around with this cartridge design decades ago but gave up because it was long before 4500 psi handpumps were available. This sparked interest in it again, maybe with a 40mm size cartridge
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any clue on how the cartridges on the defensive pistol work?
            
			
									
						Thank you for sharing this video - I didn't know that these cartridges existed. Surprisingly, I was unable to find an internal diagram, so I ordered a couple of them and will post photos of the internals when they arrive.
            
			
									
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Interesting stuff!  It seems to go around laws restricting barreled weapons by effectively being a spigot gun without a "barrel" per se. 
I've found a picture of the cartridge internals:

My impression is that it is the exhaust valve piston design we all know and love, with the pilot valve being a burst disk.
I'm guessing it's because of the difficult of actuating a resettable pilot valve at such high pressures.
            
			
									
						I've found a picture of the cartridge internals:

My impression is that it is the exhaust valve piston design we all know and love, with the pilot valve being a burst disk.
I'm guessing it's because of the difficult of actuating a resettable pilot valve at such high pressures.
hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
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That's true, although for most of the setups we see on spudfiles a slow leak would not be sufficient to pilot the valve, as it's rare that the the piston or diaphragm is a perfect seal, especially without the shock of a sudden pressure imbalance.
            
			
									
						hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
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True, but I quit using them after a misfire from merely degassing the launcher as apparently the pressure behind the diaphram leaked out faster than the ballast side and there was enough pressure left to lob a round into the neighbor's yard. Luckily no one was hurt and no damage to any property but it could have been a lot worse.
            
			
									
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I dont understand how the main valve works (i believe it is the white thing with the spring), it must be something like a 2 way QEV with the burst disk acting like a pilot valve, but how does the valve open after the burst disk is pierced?
            
			
									
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Take a look at this thread, plenty of examples on the same concept.
            
			
									
						hectmarr wrote:You have to make many weapons, because this field is long and short life
